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>I'm saying, it's hard to gauge the real ratio of upvotes to downvotes with this fuzz.

This is the entire point.

That said, I wish they'd just ban spammers and give everyone accurate metrics.



Are you suggesting they allow spammers? Every time I remove a spammer post I submit it to /r/ReportTheSpammers, and they get killed almost immediately. What else can they do outside of that? Not allow new users to vote and comments?

The best they can do is make spammers be unclear on if they're having any effect or not, by obscuring votes, or by secretly banning them without them realizing.

It's a tough problem to get right, especially without making the experience worse for everybody else. I think they've found a happy medium.


>Are you suggesting they allow spammers?

... for crying out loud.

>That said, I wish they'd just ban spammers and give everyone accurate metrics.


They do ban spammers. You're implying they don't.


I implied no such thing. I wish they'd use the banhammer AND not break vote counts.

As long as spammers are banned, there's no reason to screw up a site feature for everyone else.




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