You must have worked in a very odd and isolated department. I never heard that rhetoric, even once, throughout my tenure. Nor have any of my old colleagues who still work there and are quite well known internally (notorious patents, features / tentpole DRI, etc).
I was there 2010-2015 and I corroborate. The ambitions PM types were always quite critical of Woz, because they were all
in on the Koolaid and he is not.