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Well, you can start by donating money or your time to OpenStreetMap and DuckDuckGo.


Why didn't you contribute to OpenStreetMap?


It has been years since I gave them a try. Their interface was horrible, but this is a good reason to try them again.


Regardless of what the sibling comment says, the editing UX is really good now. Their editor has a beautiful walkthrough and easy-to-use tools, at least on desktop: https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit


But is lacking pretty badly on mobile... Exactly the device people have with them when out in the real world...


True, I think one of the things Google Maps does very cleverly is making it really easy for users to suggest corrections, often just a single tap away. That said, OSMand has been making great strides usability-wise, and though it's still pretty lacking, hopefully it'll get there some day too.


I'll be honest, I actually prefer OSMand to some other navigation apps. It may be that I'm used to it, but I find it works really well. I think my only complaint is that they use an arrow to show where they think you should go and a kind of weird, hard to see shading to show where the phone is pointing. It confuses me each time until I remember how it works.


There is StreetComplete (application asking simple questions and making possible to edit without any OpenStreetMap specific knowledge)


Almost all free and open-source alternative have terrible UIs and crappy UX. And some have shitty content too.

However, that content is done by volunteers just like you, and if you refuse to contribute because something puts you off, then the project dies. Imagine people with the same mindset as you: Oh, I don't bother contributing my design skills because the content sucks. And you don't contribute because design sucks. In the end, no one contributes and the project, as a whole, suffers.

But if the project suffers, you and everyone else, lose to corporate offerings like Google. And that is fine, if you like that. But don't expect them to respect you. I hate to say this, but change has to come from within, not from laws, market forces or anything else.

So, if you want LIBRE maps, and you really care about that, just go on and do it. Gather people, make noise and work hard. There's thousands of highly successful projects to get inspired by.


OpenStreetMap's leadership isn't bold enough to ever become the leading map provider. I don't want to contribute (for free) unless I think one day my work will impact millions of people.

In what way aren't they bold enough? Their license is too restrictive for many commercial uses, driving big businesses (apple, Google, Microsoft) and their users away.

They don't use crowdsourced data. You're never going to be able to build real-time traffic maps by manual means.. They need to make a platform to anonymously share user data so other volunteers can write automated code to turn it into real-time map features.

Likewise, they might not have the resources for street view, but I bet a few million people submitting their photo library would get a photograph of a substantial number of buildings... Then it's just about code to sort, classify, tag, and arrange the images to be useful.


Apple and Microsoft use OSM data. So do Facebook and Garmin and countless others.

OSM already impacts the lives of millions of people. Indeed, it genuinely saves lives through its humanitarian work, and has been doing so since the Haiti earthquake.

What you appear to be saying is that it doesn’t provide motorist-centric features like “real-time traffic maps”. As someone who thinks the world would be a whole bunch better if there were fewer cars, I’m good with that.


> You're never going to be able to build real-time traffic maps by manual means

OpenStreetMap is not trying to make this specific product.


What about bold, italic, etc?


Either press the word combinations, ctrl+b etc, or select the text you want bold and there will be a popup.

You`re limited on the selection though, thats kinda a bummer. In my opinion making a selection and allowing a few operations, like bold, delete, is worth it.


OK, that's it. I'm not paying for this crap anymore. Which email providers do you guys recommend? Zoho? Rackspace?


Runbox is great, although I'm not an email power user.


Urbanite hipsters don't enjoy nature. They read about it on buzzfeed while drinking lattes.


I used to do that until two rentals broke down, the second being quite scary and leaving me and my family stranded. Hertz and Sixt. Do you have a local rental place or something?

With my own car, I'm constantly keeping an eye for everything + regular maintenance.


I don't think the new generation knows what Mosaic was.


Corrupt government.


Would you please stop posting unsubstantive comments?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


Yeah, let's force citizens to bow to their government masters and pay their "fair" share, while Big Hotel lobbies away, competes unfairly and gets huge tax benefits.


Let's allow richer-than-us foreigners to come to our city, buy all the houses, and then keep them empty to make tax-free money through air-bnb.

Fuck the locals, there's tourists that want to enjoy the sun in the summer and arabs that need to invest their petrol dollars.


> keep them empty to make tax-free money through air-bnb.

You don't make a lot of money through AirBnB if you are keeping the place empty.


But you can make more per month than renting, even if it's empty for most of the days.


Yeah, let's force community residents to deal with noise and parties and the increased cost of housing brought by AirBnb while allowing AirBnb and their billionaire investors to make a lot of money while pushing off all the externalities on the communities.


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What; you meaning zoning?


Wish they updated the Kaleidoscope tutorial.


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